Have to agree with your article. As for me, I just quit using Strava and went elsewhere. So I've just got back from a run, and I'm listed against 4 segments, three of them have achievements (PR, PR, 2nd best PR), and one other segment where I have the 4th best time but for reasons I cannot work out, I am not listed at all on the leaderboard despite Strava knowing I ran the segment. I record my rides via a Cateye Smart linked to my iPhone6s which is then uploaded to STRAVA when I finish the ride. You sign up to ChaseTheLadder via Strava. Im not an athlete but liked the segment feature to compare progress against friends. Out of all the things theyre doing here, this is one of the most irritating ones. Iv refreshed the activity but its not done anything. For example why cant clubs/teams create shared Strava routes that automatically sync into the team members accounts based on upcoming rides on a team calendar? If Strava knew how to cost effectively host their servers they would probably make money, they use AWS, beyond a certain scale thats not cost effective (about the $25K mark). But is the undercurrent of it true? Check out Singletrack uses affiliate services calledSkimlinksandwhich means we may earn revenue if you buy a product after clicking a link to a retailer on our site. Same goes for my group membership in the Slowtwitch.com Club, that too would go away, here on a different segment: Free users can still create segments, as well as use the segment explorer to look at/search for segments. Meaning, youre either paying or not. Likely less than 5% of Stravas 50 million users will ever see them. I am 16, creating a website that shows all Strava's segment leaderboard, but Strava . Maybe think about adding stuff instead of this continued disparity between the app and the website where you have to look in both places to find stuff. Click above for all the details. Singletrack uses affiliate services calledSkimlinksandwhich means we may earn revenue if you buy a product after clicking a link to a retailer on our site. But, as Scotroutes says, VeloViewer has loads of stats about your rides. I respect that Strava need to make money or they wont survive, but I think theyve gone about this in the wrong way. without meaking every ride public. As part of the May 18th changes, Route Builder got a complete overhaul. Its clear that Strava wants you to have a subscription though, otherwise Segments are mostly useless. Take for example VeloViewer, within this Zwift Insider leaderboard section. But thats far from true. Your email address will not be published. Next question is how do I search for my best ever time on a section?without meaking every ride public. If you update an activity to be private - Strava notifies us to delete it, and we do. But, all my PRs seem to be from the first recorded attempt at a segment. Will you test our product before release? They can also see the KOM/QOM (due to being allowed to see the Top 10/10 Top 10 Female), as well as they can see their own PRs. Note: Values for the leaderboard are calculated from . Long story short, Theyre using the stick, instead of the carrot.. After June 18th, those endpoints will either omit the data or return an error message.. After roughly five months of appeasing users with new feature after new featureafter new feature, the other shoe has finally dropped. Strava is continually rolling out new updates to its platform functionality, with over 70 updates in the past year. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. You can see how your ranking has changed since your last activity - as others move up or down around you. Overzicht. This Chrome extension will add additional annual summary for Strava club leaderboard page. Theyre just using the Embed on Blog feature to get that to display: I asked Strava exactly what was changing developer-wise, and they noted the following specific items from the API: Segment Leaderboard data is not available anymore, Segment Effort data is available for subscribers (but not non-paying users). Choose between 'Weekly', 'Monthly' etc for the duration. Some reviews are over 60 pages long when printed out, with hundreds of photos! Colin Sahlman 1:46 NAU haters go home devastated, ASBEL KIPROP - back at it again, misses WADA test, Fair or foul: HS Coach scratches athlete from state qualifying mile race as coach didn't like effort he gave in 800, Leroy Burrell out does former Tennessee coach - cuts 30 athletes this week, Joe Klecker Last place at Penn Relays Mile, Nick Ponzio - Italian Shot Putter Forced into Retirement, Woman ran for 7 miles trying to get away from male masturbator, ended up breaking leg, he gets zero jail time - only probation. SpaceSteak 6 days ago Might be a slowdown on Strava's side. If thats the case (but certainly not saying my choices arent good for women), and you just want to see a different gear junkies picks, check out The Girls Gear Guide too. Then came all the trash activities in my feed, mainly friends Zwift workouts, but walking, etc. So what is the point of this app? I run strava from an android app and I did drop my phone on a stop when out on the ride so Im guessing that was the rate at which my phone hit the deck .. Im sure I would have remembered 116kph otherwise. Now, youre simply a subscriber or not. Visit our moderation dashboard to view statistics on our moderating activity. But, if youre not a paying member, youll never see it. I gave Stava my Data for years, now they want to charge me for the agregation of that into a product set. Finally, it should be noted that while Strava is slashing and burning today, they did roll out a few new (positive) changes for premium users. I also ride and race enduros, hard enduros and hare scrambles on a motorcycle. I want to bring up the fact that non paying users can now only create private segments. I subscribed for years. Leave the password field blank to post anonymously. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Look I get why Strava needs to deprecate this feature. Then, I come here and write about my adventures. Strava's Incident and Scheduled Maintenance History. Is it just me? It simply wouldnt show up anymore, as if it didnt exist. Still cant make up my mind what to do.. Im not paying so much money for the app. Do you find that Strava leaderboards are OK, but they are missing something? For 10 a year its much better value than Strava premium. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. And it probably is worth $60/ year compared to other things that I spend money on. If you do find something odd please do tell us! In the past corporate entities have avoided that topic but no more, and that might be the biggest limiting factor for SM expansion; the division of customers along political lines, and that wont be good for business. I havent used Strava that much lately but I have just started training again and just found out that you have to subscribe just to check your own history and comparisons! Its annoying looking back using the Training Calendar, but no more annoying than the calendar on Garmin Connect. I used Strava free for years. A few years ago I became a subscriber because: Every dollar you spend . So basically, that first single line item above simply says kill off segment result data. Heres a bunch of random trip reports and daily trip-logs that Ive put together and posted. The Mids only come After a short break theyre back and in this episode George, Jack and Emilie are joined by the five time World Cup Champion, Intense Factory Racings Aaron Gwin, to chat Making Up The Numbers Podcast: Aaron Gwin, This topic has 20 replies, 17 voices, and was last updated. You can choose how often to receive emails. 60eur is a lot of money to pay for something I dont have a full data to look for! It manifests itself in a few different ways, including mini-leaderboards and full leaderboards. Yes, flybys are hosed for now, and its weird that theyre suddenly worried about privacy on flybys after having them around for so long. Most companies give many many months for upcoming deprecated features. If they didnt break apps for 30 days, would that have really been such a big deal? I never noticed it missing, & I always used to check it. - Non-paying users will no longer see the full leaderboard: They'll only see the top 10 times (all + Top 10 women), you won't see your friends anymore - Strava is removing the leaderboard from all 3rd party apps: If you're using one of the 44,000 3rd party apps out there to do anything with Segments, this likely just broke it. Oh, and you can sign-up for the newsletter here! Every leaderboard has these columns, each of which is sortable: Note that speed/pace and average gradient are only calculated if you have completed a certain distance in the last 4 weeks. Anyway, the training calendar is no longer available in Strava. Those will show up in iOS/Android app version v150 starting today, but may take up to 48 hours for everyone to see. Find a ride with the section/segment you want to look at and open the ride. (And no, Im not associated with them in any way). The current/final list is also now shown correctly here. Use VeloViewer for all sorts of stats and analyses. So I really think Strava is shooting themselves in the foot here and this will come back to bite them. If I look at the results of everyone I'm following then just my first recorded (much slower) time is there. The easiest way that to navigate to a segment URL on strava.com is by clicking "View Full Leaderboard" or "View Local Legend Stats" while you're viewing a segment from an activity. But wait, are you a female and feel like these things might not apply to you? Strava built the segments with users data and now they are asking money to use your it ? But you can switch between metric and Imperial measures whenever you are viewing a leaderboard. People say NO, but they dont really care. Since Strava's big shakeup we've been hard at work creating a pile of segments that don't correspond to known routes or leaderboards in game. I probably wont ever subscribe. You are looking at this years boards and your time was in the all time board as it was in a prior year? Sorry never going to pay for my own data shared with others.. But what you are looking for the the organization of your data that Strava brings. I and people like me have approached Strava many times about including a motorsports category. Wanna save some cash and support the site? my strava for my last ride told me my max speed had been 116kph. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. In typical single speed style this year's world championship has been announced. If you have a question or concern, email us at letsrun@letsrun.com or call us at our toll-free phone number: View our Terms Of Service for a complete description of our forum policies. At present, about 30% of the community intends to continue using Strava (paid or unpaid). Press segments and then choose add to the dashboard at the top of the screen. If youre a non-paying member, youll get none of this going forward (you previously didnt get ages/weights unless a subscriber). Segment Detail screen is allowed (just not leaderboard details) Sounds like a plan for the future indeed! Use code HELLO54 when you join us as a print or digital member and your membership will be half price for the first year. If you edit the activity and uncheck the hide option then you will see your time show up on the segment leaderboard and also as your PR for that segment as well. Public angst against FB currently, should be a warning sign for what other social media sites could face in the future, and it could spell the end for FB much like the now ghostly MySpace. Not surprisingly, Ive gone in search of another app. . And from now on, more of our new feature development will be for subscribers well invest the most in the athletes who have invested in us. Ive been impressed with Sports Tracker by Amer sports. Note: The restrictions will appear immediately. The indicators on the summary show if the current activity was above or below your 4 week average for this activity type. Strava, I will again be a paying customer when you give me filters for my feed. Looking for the equipment I use day-to-day? the unofficial home of Strava on Reddit - your place to post about, chat about and discuss all things Strava! Thats still permitted, but isnt done programmatically anymore. Strava likely still would have converted those users that cared about in-app access, without breaking their partner ecosystem. I swim, bike and run. As for the point that it is our data they are restricting and your response that they add value to it, well the problem is that it isnt particularly advanced analysis just displaying the times of segments youve run from your own runs and someone will come along and just provide this so whilst its gone now it wont be for long. Weve also made subscription more straightforward by removing packs and the brand of Summit. Well, apparently a small number of apps retain leaderboards, but only to show to Strava subscribers. I have google play services set up, my achievements work properly, but the leaderboard doesn't seem to want to work. WHAT ? You can only run an unprofitable business so long when people stop giving you money. So instead of giving you time to fix your apps, were just gonna do it anyways and instead give you empty data that confuses your end users and app design, so this way it appears your app is broken not Stravas. This will give you the behaviour you are seeing. It seems like a company founded by teenagers with no real world business sense. Alternatively, for everything else on the planet, simply buy your goods from Amazon via the link below and I get a tiny bit back as an Amazon Associate. Great article. The only problem? Krissi Gear goes after Evert Silva on Strava. Follow You can refresh your results on an individual segment if your recorded segment time does not match your time on the leaderboard. Sports Tracker (which I just downloaded) is not compatible with Garmin, Polar, etc. Should I wait it out, contact strava or just get over myself?! But wait why is VeloViewer different than other apps? Personally Im torn on this issue, I dont like what they did. Im not going to use my phone and Im definitely not going to use an Apple Watch or Suunto for running. There were many companies in other industries in the past like Strava, arrogance lost them. In addition to those substantial ones, theres also one lesser removal: Non-paying users will no longer get matched runs feature: This will automatically compare runson the same route from a pace/speed standpoint. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Im a Strava power user with 32 KOMs and Im happy with the free mode as I only need to see the top 10 to know what to beat. So Im just mad at them. You should check out my videos. VeloViewer has detailed the nuances here, which still involve less features now for non-paying Strava users. Activity achievements is shown on a ride (KOMs, CRs, PRs), Paying Subscribers only: I know one person in my sphere that uses that feature. Click on Show full leaderboard. Im just not convinced gutting Segments and routes for non-paying members is the right direction there. At least that happened to virtual efforts in RGT, That change was actually a month or so before, but isnt related to paid/non-paid users. And in reality its not very social anywayand I believe people are figuring this outfinally. gravel vs not, more elevation option, etc), and you also got some redesigned elements of the mobile app around training load tracking. Strava api: segment leaderboard two people with same name. The topic Strava- not showing right times on leaderboard is closed to new replies. Plus if the tables had been turned, and it was Amazon AWS (Stravas hosting provider), and they simply sent them a note one morning and said: Dont worry, were just sending you empty data from your databases effective immediately. Im guessing Strava wouldnt feel the same way. Cookie Notice Best, Sarah" - Jul 03 03:48 pm (PDT) I asked Strava why applications were notified after the disablement, and didn't really get a good answer, only clarifying that: And matched runs no longer works. But there are some pluses. Im not aware of any reputable software development platform that gives zero notice to their development customers before breaking their apps. People say NO, but they dont really care. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. People just need to get outside and be socialanything else is arguably fake and not good for personal well being, and thats aside from the data acquisition part of SM dishonesty. Strava is where you can record and share all the ways you like to move. After the trip when I wanted to view the trip, I unfortunately had to learn that Strava had suspended my account, and the data was not available (even though it was recorded locally on my device). First of all, you got a new desktop (web) route builder which better integrates Strava Segments and terrain filters (e.g. If the activity is hidden from the leaderboard, you will still see all of the segments and your times for the efforts on them but they won't be posted to the segment leaderboard. Summarize and export csv of Strava activities on Club Recent Activity tab and Profile page. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. Theres money in the moto world. And if a tree falls in the forestwho cares? At any rate, if Strava is wanting to become the social media location for athletes theyve waited too long, the importance of social mediaanymorewhich itself is waning due to the dishonest data aggregation side of the business. Strava is a great fitness tool and favoured by many runners and cyclists. If you think ChaseTheLadder is for you, and you've read the privacy notices, then click to Connect with STRAVA. In any case, as of today, non-paying users will no longer see the full leaderboard. We DO NOT modify any activity data, and we DO NOT overwrite and description that may already be there. ChaseTheLadder creates the leaderboards of the Strava clubs you are a member of. Im not sure whether this is relevant or not but all my activities are private initially and I pick and choose which activities to share with Everyone. Many readers stumble into my website in search of information on the latest and greatest sports tech products. Theres some value to be had there, sure, but not as much value as is being lost today (for all users). I have built an extensive list of my most frequently asked questions. Thats the part they need to be called out for. Still, my take is that this is less about Stravas goals of being profitable, and more about the way theyre going about it. But I cant say never. And perhaps this is stravas goal? Go to Strava on your computer, select your activity and click the three small dots. Based on this experience, I can only advise people not to trust Strava with your data at all. Till then, Ill just use something else that caters to both crowds. There are several reasons you may want to refresh your achievements. At least, if you believe Strava Segments are the soul of what makes Strava, well, Strava. Only devices like those from Garmin/Wahoo/Hammerhead/etc that have Strava Live Segments can display that for paying members. Im headed to Washington DC what do you recommend for training? I hate that sort of invasive preaching that happens with Strava where they have no idea what theyre doingthey are not a sports authority, they are a sports data accumulation application. Plus age groups and weight classes too. And now they start to fix things, but make the whole package less attractive? Strava's segment leaderboards and route builder will no longer be available for free, with the social-fitness platform shifting focus to a subscription model . Your Strava preference is used to determine the default measurement units for the leaderboard. Because he is independent and will give his honest opinion. I have been struggling with this problem for a few days. The appropriate course of action here would have been to give their 3rd party developer partners at least a month to update their apps to deal with this significant change. My Photography Gear: The Cameras and Equipment I Use Daily, DC Rainmaker 2021 swim, bike, run, and general gear list. We dont pay for google, do we? Certainly always updated after a couple of hours/overnightnever more than a day. And we don't do cookies. By posting you acknowledge that you have read and abide by our. The specific type of segment that this alternative leaderboard MIGHT provide a more accurate leaderboard for are those that are fairly short (less than 1km), in a straight line and with very good satellite visibility (hence, little to no gps drift) in which case the differences in distance between riders is most likely down to the difference And historically speaking that doesnt improve customer satisfaction. Why does strava leaderboard not update? That's what we thought, so we decided to make our own. Ok so this is weird. In a conference call last week, Strava was point-blank clear that if they dont get more subscribers and become profitable, theres a pretty good chance there wont be a Strava in a year. charlie reid funeral home obituaries, st louis missouri bus station,
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