If youre replacing the hard line coming right out of the caliper, youll need to break loose the nut behind the hard line. I thought about removing the fuse but being that I use it now as a family vehicle I was always afraid to remove the fuse since it looks ok - but I took out the fuse and went out for a test drive alone in our new 3" snowfall (so far). The ideal one to use here is medium strength Blue Threadlocker. Thats good to know! 5. If you can't get your LSPV going, I'd get one from the junkyard. Then use a box wrench to loosen, but be careful as it is quite easy to strip these nuts. Learn More. Prior to un-bolting and removing the brake caliper, it is best to break loose and remove the brake line bolts. 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The booster should hold a few pumps until the pedal gets firm again with the engine off. Now I feel stupid - wish I would of taken out the fuse before. Within in weeks of owning and driving the vehicle, while braking as I drove over irregular road, I noticed that the brakes were not grabbing, l and the abs braking system was activated, but the vehicle was not stopping, commensurate with the demand that I was putting on the brake pedal. ToyotaNation Forum is a community dedicated to all Toyota models. Since air compresses this will lead to a reduction in braking performance. Blue threadlocker on the rear caliper mounting bolts. Web1997 Toyota 4Runner Brake Bleeder Change Vehicle Review Fitment Notes. Now that all the the brake calipers (and lines if you opted to do those as well) are replaced, there is air in the hydraulic brake system. Dirty fingernails doesn't make you a man, missing fingernailsthat might do it. If the brake pedal is depressed with the reservoir cap removed, then brake fluid will spatter. HINT: If any work is done on the brake system or if air in the brake lines is suspected, bleed the air from the system. When bleeding, keep the amount of the fluid between the Min. and Max. lines on the reservoir. Product Remark: - Pack of 2. The contact stated that while attempting to decelerate, stopping power decreased and the abs erroneously engaged. Brake Hard Lines47316-35280: drivers side front47314-35320: passengers side front. Updated 03/11/13. 3. Updated 03/08/13 the consumer stated on several occasions, they brakes wouldn't perform as designed. The rubber brake hose then attaches to another hard brake line. Johnson Auto Sales & Service 297 Lincoln St Marlborough, If not thats ok once the brake pedal is depressed fluid should come out. The worst complaints are service brakes, hydraulic, electronic stability control. If the MC goes dry its a trip to the dealership. I have been having a problem with the front brakes on my 97 4runner locking up in wet/snowy conditions. A breaker bar works wonders here. Keep in mind there are some size variations of the front caliper depending on whether you have the SR5/Limited or Sport edition of the 4th gen 4Runner. Youve helped a bunch. Attach the This is pretty easy maintenance and very satisfying to see the difference between the old vs. new fluid. The vehicle was taken to a private mechanic where it was found that the rear under body frame had fractured in half due to corrosion. Either one works fine, I think it works best to use the caliper lube as it provides a nice even lubricating coat all over the components. Start with the front passenger side brake. Already ordered front right and normally this would be the case but the 4Runner rear brakes automatically pumps the fluid Im guessing it has something to do with ABS? 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Type above and press Enter to search. My experience with this hard line is that it might be better to tighten the nuts on both ends of the hard line before mounting the brake caliper. At the very least, you should flush and bleed the system when replacing the pads. Position the hose so that the open end touches the bottom of the bottle. Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum, Classifieds - buy & sell (no commercial ads please), Engines / Suspension / Wheels / Tires / Audio / Accessories, European T4R & Hilux Surf Clubs (click to view), Asia & Oceania T4R & Hilux Surf Clubs (click to view), Africa & Middle East T4R & Hilux Surf Clubs (click to view), Latin America / Carribbean T4R & Hilux Surf Clubs (click to view), http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-geld-thread.html. Try opening a front bleeder and depress the pedal ALL the way,should feel a light "tic" as it reaches the bottom,close the bleeder and try to bleed the rear again,but instead of pumping ,just take the master cover off ,open the rear bleeders and wait 10 min or so for the fluid to gravity bleed out the air. I eliminated the LSPV on my 83. Can you do the same (is it safe) to bleed it dry in order to replace brake lines? I still drive the vehicle, and the brake issue has not changed. Brake FluidAny Dot 3 or Dot 4 for the 4th Gen Toyota 4Runner V6 (1GRE-FE), however you should make sure with your owners manual to be safe. If not repeat the process again for another 60 seconds. 5. Remove all wheels and set them aside. Position: Rear. 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Discussion in '3rd Gen 4Runners (1996-2002)' started by Jjohns2711, Aug 20, 2020. SURELY not all three of these MCs are bad, and surely my brake bleeding skills dont suck that much - Ive bled many systems before. IOW, rear passenger 1st, rear driver second, front passenger 3rd and front driver last. Penetrating OilLiquid Wrench L103 Penetrating Oil 3 oz. *Flushing brakes does not require removing the wheels, Ive removed mine in order to take better pictures. 2022 The Track Ahead. Do not press too hard on the brake pedal when bleeding, as you can damage the internal master cylinder components. While braking and going over bumps, potholes, separations in roadways, the brakes will momentarily fail much like it is activating the abs braking system. after several such experience, in June or July of 1997, I took the car to the dealership and was advised that they found nothing wrong with the braking system. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The common approach is to work the breaks from the furthest away from the MC, to the closest. So far so good - no noticeable pedal fall or front wheel lock up and no grinding ABS system noise + no immediate sliding. These are the hard brake lines that connect directly between the front caliper and the flexible brake hose. Hey guys, my name is Jensen from Southern California! Bleeding the Brakes Now that all the the brake calipers (and lines if you opted to do those as well) are replaced, there is air in the hydraulic brake system. 3. The pictures below show the differences between the larger Sport Edition WH calipers (left) and the smaller SR5/Limited WG calipers (right). Toyota hasnt released any Tech bullitens for this problem, but if you want to report it to NTHSA then call 1-888-327-4236 who knows, maybe another RECALL on Toyota is in the making! Sinking to the floor is * not* normal but the pedal getting softer after you start the truck is the vacuum brake booster doing its job. Ok your welcome, if I find anything more I will post it for you. Fronts get bled the old fashioned way. Come discuss the Camry, Tacoma, Highlander, 4Runner, Rav4 and more! Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Trail Addict, Nov 25, 2021. Trail Tips for Packing & Organizing your Dometic CFX3 55IM, Recommended Service Interval: 2 years or 60,000 miles which ever comes first. Content on toyotanation.com is generated by its users. Start with the rear passenger side brake. "I have a somewhat confusing question here. This is very useful for any corroded or rusted hardware, but in this case I found it very helpful on the hard brake lines. Here are the new rear brake caliper and brake lines installed. If youre not replacing any lines, youll only need to break loose the nut from the hard line attached to the caliper. 6. Pump the brake pedal to check for pedal pressure and leaks around the bleeder valves. I have had my mechanic due a complete check and everything checks out fine - he did notice a problem with the brake cylinder which he changed along with a couple of leaking lines. Torque down the brake caliper mounting bolts to the proper torque. Fronts get bled the old fashioned way. Very detailed and very helpful. You are the MAN! I use the info from trail4runner.com. I screwed it back in till it stopped coming out, but now I can only go in just a little bit before it feels like it hits something. Ive outlined some of the pitfalls that I ran into while replacing the brake calipers on my 2003 Toyota 4Runner, meanwhile providing a walk-through of my brake caliper replacement. Think of ABS to brakes as computers are to engines, we ran pretty good cars before the PCM came along! Check the Brakes chapter of the factory service manual - there's a section on the load sensing proportioning valve (LSPV) that gives some troubleshooting help. Fit the new brake caliper over the rotor and line up the caliper mounting holes of the brake caliper with the holes on the steering knuckle. I then took a rubber band and wrapped it around the bag as tight as I could. Again, I used a small Ziploc bag and tied a rubber band around the tip to mitigate brake fluid from getting all over the place. Slowly pour the new brake fluid into the reservoir until it reaches slightly past MAX. If everything looks good continue pumping the brake pedal in increments of 5-10 times and checking the brake fluid reservoir and catch bottle. I had to replace my hard brake lines because my existing ones had stripped threads. Pump will bleed rears w/o pushing on brake pedal (!). Also, these posts are based off my own experiences. When the dealership was notified they refused to replace the tires . I know I can read the old boring manual, but I would rather there be a thread I can find here like for forums of my other vehicles with all the common maintenance info like common torque specs, fluids, etc. Remove rubber cap from brake bleeder valve and attach rubber hose to it. This is used on the caliper mounting bolts to ensure that they stay bolted tight after re-installation. If you do not bleed this valve it will get air trapped in it. So yea, show that DOT-3 some TLC. I think one person reported the pump running frequently after bleeding, but that could be air in the system, something damaged by bleeding it, the brake booster getting Even with a pressure bleeder the LSPV in the rear needs bleed. 1997 Toyota 4runner has a momentary loss of braking capability while traveling over an uneven road surface, pothole, bump. I pulled the fuse and the brakes work just fine- thanks for the tip! Eight problems related to service brakes have been reported for the 1997 Toyota 4Runner. While driving on the highway at the speed limit (60 mph), the vehicle surged/jolted forward pulling to the right. Reinstall the brackets holding the brake lines if you removed them previously. You base brakes will funtion without ABS and after pulling the fuse, brakes work good, this means there is a defect in the ABS. Get in the drivers seat and slowly pump the brake pedal a few times. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I am not responsible for any action you take as a result of reading this. Reinstall the new brake hose and hard brake lines. WebWorst 1997 Toyota 4Runner Problems #1: Engine Cuts Out At Highway Speeds 1997 4Runner Average Cost to Fix: $5,000 Average Mileage: 45,000 mi. OK, I tried wiggling the lever arm to try to get it to work, and it didn't work, so I tried to loosen that little screw with the nipple on the end to se if that was blocking the flow of the fluid, and I went a litle too far and brake fluid started squirting out. This is a safety hazard that must be addressed in order to avoid future incidents. . Ive always wondered which of the aftermarket ones are less prone to seizing although the cheaper ones I got from RockAuto seemed to have held up. Because I am aware of the problem with the brakes, whenever I drive over irregular road surfaces, bumps or expansion joints I keep a considerable distance away from the vehicle in front of me. All of these lines are secured to brackets along the way with c-clips to hold them in place. Never heard of this before. All passengers were hospitalized but no other vehicles or people were hurt from the accident. Brake fluid is very corrosive so take extra care when pouring. At the moment right before you straighten the vehicle wheel to park, the car suddenly revved up for about 1 to 2 seconds causing the vehicle to accelerate forward. They are the stock size 13WG and work fine even when towing our boat. Im already changing the pads and rotors Why doesnt the brake fluid get the attention it needs?
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